A truly terrible job might save your life — but a tolerable one can steal it. Jonathan Doyle on Harvard professor Dan Gilbert’s research into “the peculiar longevity of things not so bad”: we escape awful situations fast, but stay stuck in mildly bad ones for decades, because they never hurt enough to trigger change. From a Qantas crew member who refused to settle, to the tolerable marriage, the okay job, the suboptimal health nobody addresses — and the audit question that cuts through all of it: where is your life mildly bad?

“The danger you face in life is actually not rock bottom. The real danger is comfortable enough.”

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Well, hello there, my friend.

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Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Welcome to The Daily Podcast.

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Can I suggest to you that a truly terrible job might save your life?

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But a tolerable one can steal it.

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A truly terrible job may save your life.

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How would that be possible?

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And a tolerable one can steal it.

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This is gonna be a really interesting episode.

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This is an episode about what you are prepared to tolerate, and how what

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you are prepared to tolerate could cost you way more than a crisis.

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Seems a little counterintuitive, doesn't it?

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We think that a crisis is dramatic and terrible, and indeed it can be.

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But in this episode, I want to explain to you that settling for mild discomfort

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can, in the long run, be much more dangerous to you than a sudden crisis.

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I wanna share with you some interesting research from, uh, Professor Dan

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Gilbert at Harvard, and they did a whole bunch of really interesting research

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that suggests that we escape awful situations fast, but we stay stuck in

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mildly bad ones for decades because they never hurt enough to trigger change.

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We escape awful situations fast.

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If your house is on fire, you don't tend to sit there and go, "Well, let's just

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see how this goes. Let's just see how bad this gets." If your house is on fire

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or if a doctor suddenly tells you that there is some absolutely terrible health

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crisis, you tend to act pretty quickly.

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We're not, uh… We don't struggle with that as humans.

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But what this research suggests is that we will stay stuck in mildly bad

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situations for decades because they never hurt enough to trigger change.

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I was flying back from a speaking engagement yesterday, and I had my

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favorite seat, and I'm thinking to myself, "This is great. There's no one next to

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me. This is gonna be a great flight."

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And then all of a sudden, right there, there was a, uh, crew member from

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Qantas who was transferring to another flight, and they had to sit next to me.

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And I thank God for that, because we had a fantastic conversation, and she

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was telling me all about how long she's been doing and what she loves about it.

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It was a really interesting conversation.

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But one of the things that came up for her was she just-- I said, "So why did

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you choose this?" You know, "What did you do before this?" And she said, "Oh,

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you know, I was in retail, and I was just working in these stores." And,

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and she goes, "I didn't wanna spend the rest of my life just going to a

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desk and doing something that I hated."

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And the passion in her voice was so interesting.

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I love people like that and conversations like that, because she

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was not prepared to tolerate what she didn't want for decades to come.

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I'm not criticizing anybody that has a desk job.

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Some people can have a desk job and absolutely love it, but she had enough

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self-awareness to know that if she chose the easier, perhaps less interesting

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path and just turned up every single day doing the same thing, she'd be miserable.

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So she kinda realized to her credit that it was important not to settle for

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things that are mildly uncomfortable.

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So there's a lot of ways this could play out.

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You know, you can imagine being in a, in a tolerable marriage.

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I often think about the day that people get married.

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You know, they're like, you see them up there, and everyone's smiling.

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I mean, you very rarely see someone on their wedding day looking absolutely

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miserable, thinking, "This is the dumbest decision I ever made." You don't see that.

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You see this expectation, and this happiness, and this joy, and then sure

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enough, the challenges of modern life set in, and time passes, and people can

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end up really disconnected from that joy, and passion, and intimacy that first

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connected them, and they settle, right?

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And I'm not judging anybody.

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Relationships are difficult.

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All sorts of things can happen over the long journey of life.

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But it is very possible for us, even in intimate, precious, special

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relationships, just to settle.

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And think about how many people settle in terms of career.

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And again, I wanna say this sensitively, because we all pay the bills, right?

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Some of us don't often easily get the choice to follow our absolute passions,

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though I actually think there is a great deal we can do in that area.

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But can we agree that many people settle?

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They're just like, "Eh, it's okay. It's not terrible. It's not, it's

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not awful." I mean, do you think God put us on the Earth to be not in…

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Like, you know, to tolerate misery for extended periods of time?

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Yes, we can endure suffering.

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Yes, we can endure hard times.

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But do you think that you are here just to settle for mildly

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awful over a long period of time?

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Or think about it in the area of your health, right?

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How many people in the areas of their health kind of just settle?

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They're like, "Oh, you know, this is okay. This is just…" Uh, Karen and I were at,

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uh, we were at the MCG on Saturday night.

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We had 84,000 people there.

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And we both noticed a guy sitting a couple of rows down, and I'm gonna

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say this so nicely, 'cause I know some of you will think I'm being

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judgmental, and I don't know his story, but he, he just looked so unwell.

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Not unwell in the sense of there was some obvious serious illness,

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but he just looked really unhealthy.

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His skin, his, his, his everything.

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He just looked like he had fully surrendered.

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And again, uh, please understand I'm not judging him.

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I don't know his story.

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I don't know what might have led to that.

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But he looked like somebody who had just decided to settle, that this is how,

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what it's gonna be, and my health's gonna be like this, and it really stood out.

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And that, uh, it's very possible just to go, "Well, I'm not in, you know,

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serious risk of imminent death, so I'll just tolerate my low energy and my low

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health and feeling pretty rubbish all the time, and waking up in the mornings

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and feeling suboptimal." One of my favorite words at the moment, suboptimal.

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You see, because in terms of your health, if you have, like, sudden chronic pain,

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you kinda like, y- your whole system goes, something serious has just happened,

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and you go and get help for that.

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I mean, my last bike crash, as soon as I hit the road, I'm like,

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"Yeah, this ain't good." I kind of … It was no negotiation there.

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There was no like, "No, I'll be fine.

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I'm just gonna, just gonna walk this off." I was like, "No, hospital,

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please." So pain, dramatic pain, focuses our attention remarkably.

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But that twinge or that feeling of s- illness and sickness and low health that

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we can settle for, that can go on for long periods of time, slowly stealing

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our capacity and energy along the way.

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And here's another thing to think about as we talk about the risk of settling for

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not awful, is that isn't it interesting to note that certain people hit rock

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bottom and make fascinating, dramatic change, and yet other people can

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never hit rock bottom, but just drift along in this sort of plateau of okay?

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You see, if you hit rock bottom, if you have times in your life when things

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are really hard and difficult and, and you're truly confronted by your

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choices and things that have happened to you, then that's dramatic, and that's

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noticeable, and that yells at you.

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And if it's not you yelling at you, if you hit rock bottom, there's

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usually a few people around you going, "Uh, we need to talk."

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Right?

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So that, it focuses our attention, whereas the plateau of okay means

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that we don't face a crisis, and we just endure and put up with the cir-

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circumstance or situation indefinitely.

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So I've definitely done it.

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I can think of one long season in my life where I just put up with mediocre,

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suboptimal outcomes for myself.

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And the thing that you'll find is when you're doing that,

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you will explain it away.

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You will find, if you know that you are way under your performance and

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you're tolerating things that make you really unhappy, you will know.

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And usually what happens is you construct a whole architecture of reasons why

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there's nothing you can do about it.

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I did this with one of my kids recently.

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I just, over a period of a few long conversations, I said, "Look, you, you

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have to stop any complaining." And I spoke yesterday at this, uh, at this conference,

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and I kinda said that to the people there.

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I said, "You have to take full responsibility. You just, you

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can't tolerate excuses and blame."

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Yes, difficult things may have happened.

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Yes, you've got challenges and problems, but what are you gonna do next?

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Because a disaster will focus your attention, but tolerable can endure

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for a very long period of time.

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So I wanna ask you, if I was gonna ask you to audit your life at the

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moment, here's an interesting question: Where is your life mildly bad?

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Just mildly bad.

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Just like, just bad enough to be obvious to you, yet you're kind of not putting

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it at the top of your to-do list.

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That you'll just tolerate.

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You'll just kind of go, "Oh well, this is how it is," and it's too much

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effort and work to really change it.

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You see, my friend, if you want a different life, you have to

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take this radical responsibility.

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You have to go, "I am going to be the person responsible for the

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outcomes that I am experiencing.

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Yes, I live in an, in an environment.

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Yes, there are other people in it.

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Yes, there are some things that I can't fully control.

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But all the things that I can control, my sleep, my attitude, my language,

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my disciplines, my processes, my food, my exercise, all these things

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that I can control, I will no longer permit them to be tolerably bad.

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I'm going to make them excellent." I had a meeting today with somebody

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that I was coaching, and one of the points I made was we were talking

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about kind of the ability to reframe the meaning of life experiences.

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It's an incredibly powerful thing.

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Love to do a whole episode on that for you soon.

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But the human ability to go through difficulty and provide

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different meanings to ourselves.

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And the point that I made to them was I genuinely think

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this is a one percenter skill.

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Like, not even one percenter.

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Like, most people, if you explain to them, "Look, you can choose

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the meanings that you face when difficult things happen," most people

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are gonna go, "That's ridiculous.

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You can't.

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Bad things happen.

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You have to accept them.

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You can't change the meaning and just talk yourself out of it."

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Well, I actually think you can.

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I genuinely do.

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I think when the most difficult things happen, you can actually hunt and

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find and develop empowering meanings.

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But my point really in that conversation was to try and help this person realize

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that there are behaviors and beliefs and processes that a very small percentage

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of the population follow, and this idea of celebrating for tolerable unhappiness

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is what large numbers of people do.

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It's that old story of the frog in the boiling water, right?

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You put him in cold water and slowly turn that heat up.

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They don't really notice until it's too late.

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But if you're tolerating something in your life that could be slowly creating a huge

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problem for you, you need to change that.

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You know, termites are not a problem in a house the first day they show up, right?

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It's not like a termite, the first termite lands in your woodwork, and

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then the house falls down the next day.

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It's literally that this thing ticks away.

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It's, it's a long process.

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So you're better off making a decision to get after these

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things as early as possible.

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Okay?

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So can I give you a quote from Gilbert's research at Harvard?

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There's a really interesting phraseology they use, where they say they call it the

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peculiar longevity of things not so bad.

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The peculiar longevity of things not so bad.

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It's so interesting that language, the, the, the longevity of it, that

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you can, you can let this stuff run for years if it's not so bad.

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But I don't think the key to the life that you really want is based

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along the highway of not so bad.

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It's on the path of taking responsibility and making significant change.

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All right?

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So if I could give you a final thought, I would suggest that the danger you face

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in life is actually not rock bottom.

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The real danger is comfortable enough.

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The real danger isn't rock bottom.

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The real danger is comfortable enough.

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The real danger is that you just get, "It's, it's okay.

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It, it's all right.

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What I eat's all right.

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The quality of my intimate relationships are all right.

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My job, it's all right.

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My kids, they're all right.

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My fitness, yeah, it's okay." Because at the end of your life, like, are you gonna

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be happy with all right and okay instead of spectacular, remarkable, unbelievable?

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Why not have those words describing the end of your life?

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Okay, so have we got this?

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Have we got the summary here, which is just the research shows us that people,

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it is, uh, that real pain can save your life because it focuses your attention.

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But a tolerable life, a tolerable, difficult situation that's just, just

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not quite bad enough to really focus you, that can steal your life because

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it will just, just, just keep tripping along each day, month after month, year

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after year, and it never gets addressed.

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So to finish, as I said a moment ago, if we were gonna audit your life, what is the

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thing that you would say is mildly bad?

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And what do you need to do to begin to make that significant change?

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All right, my friend, one more time, remember that the

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danger is not rock bottom.

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The danger is comfortable enough.

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