What if talent is the myth that’s letting you off the hook? Jonathan Doyle on Daniel Chambliss’s famous study of elite Olympic swimmers — years embedded with the best in the world, searching for the talent magic and finding none. What he found instead: “Superlative performance is really a confluence of dozens of small skills or activities drilled into habit and fitted together in a synthesized whole.” From Aristotle’s arete (excellence as habit) to Greene’s Mastery, a golf lesson, and a decade of 40,000 people a year on the road: excellence isn’t quantitative, it’s qualitative — and it’s mundane. Stop looking for the secret. There isn’t one.

“Whatever gift you’ve been given — when you are living in your gift, you bless people, you bless the world.”

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Well, hello there, my friend.

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Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Welcome once again to The Daily Podcast.

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As always, I'm pleased you're here.

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Some really great content this week.

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I'm enjoying these episodes because when the content is good, I learn

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as, just as much as anybody.

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I've been in this game a long time, and the cool thing about doing this week's

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content is that the things that we're covering, when I study them and share

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them with you, I know that they are real, that they're accurate, that they

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actually work, 'cause I've had long enough now to kinda test so many of, of

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these ideas in the laboratory of life.

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If you missed yesterday's episode, we talked about the fact that when things

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are really terrible, they'll force you to act, but if they're not so terrible,

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if they're just kind of a little bit bad, we tend to put up with stuff for ages.

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That was a really interesting insight for a lot of people, that sometimes

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when things are just a little bit awkward and unpleasant, you'll just

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put up with them for way too long.

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So I suggested yesterday that you do an audit of your life and look for

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things that are just a little bit bad, just a little bit off, because those

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are the areas where if you change them, you can see significant gain.

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Today, we wanna talk about the mundanity of excellence.

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The mundanity of excellence.

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This is a topic I've been talking about for several weeks now, since I

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finished Robert Greene's book, Mastery.

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That book, as I said at the time when I did some episodes

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on it, it's a tough read.

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It's 300 odd pages, and there's a fair bit of repetition in there, but the

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most powerful message of that book on mastery, if you, if I haven't mentioned

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it to you before, you haven't heard me talk about it, it's kind of a, a long

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historical study of some of the most influential figures in history and

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whether or not talent kind of exists.

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And today is gonna pick up on that because what we found in Robert

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Greene's book, Mastery, was that talent really doesn't exist.

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What I was teaching people recently at an event was aptitude

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exists, an interest in something.

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We have an aptitude or a kind of a proficiency or a

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comfort doing a certain thing.

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It might be public speaking or investment or car mechanics.

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We've all got different things that from childhood we naturally

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kind of had aptitude for.

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And then in Greene's thesis, we go from that to mastery via the path of obsession.

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So you start with an aptitude and interest, and then what we get

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is obsession, a complete focus, and really channeling the entire

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life project towards the aptitude.

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And then after, you know, X number of years, people go, "Wow, look at this

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talent." And I'm really fascinated by this because I actually think talent gives most

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of us a… It lets us off the hook, right?

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You don't have to be amazing because you might tell yourself you don't

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have the talent of someone else.

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You might see somebody doing something and you think, "Wow, they're

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so talented," and we don't try.

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Like, a lot of times people just don't, uh, just assume that talent is

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this mythical beast that's out there somewhere, and if you weren't born with

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this myth- mythical pixie dust thing that got dropped on your life, then

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you're kinda stuck with mediocrity.

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But I want to encourage you today that that is not what the data bears out.

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What the data bears out is a very different story, and in today's

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episode, we're touching on this thing called the mundanity of excellence.

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You know, that when something's mundane, it is not surprising.

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It is pedestrian.

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It is day in, day out.

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It's something that just happens over and over again.

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And what's great about these ideas again is that they're ancient.

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I'm gonna do an episode for you in a couple of days where I'm actually

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gonna talk about that a bit more, how when you hear about the next big

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thing, you should probably ignore it because the really great ideas

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have been with us for a long time.

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And as we talk about the mundanity of excellence, we can go back to Aristotle

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in the fifth century BC, who famously said that, you know, we become what we do.

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Ax- uh, excellence therefore, arete in the Greek, excellence therefore, Aristotle

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says, is a habit, that excellence comes from doing specific things day in, day

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out, time after time, and repeating them.

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So today, I'm gonna just draw your attention to some fascinating research

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by a guy called Daniel Chambliss or Chambliss, who was embedded for many

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years with elite Olympic athletes and spent ages studying them, trying to

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understand this mythical beast of talent.

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And what he discovered, there was no talent magic anywhere.

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There was dozens of small, I'm reading to you now from the research, dozens of

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small ordinary skills, each learned or stumbled on, stacked and synchronized.

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So what he discovered, he probably went in there like most of us expecting, wow,

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these are these, these genetic freaks.

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And let's be honest, there's, in, in something like Olympic sports,

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particularly swimming, which was Chambliss' focus, you know, there is

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a genetic component like, you know, this is the aptitude piece, right?

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If you're five foot nothing and, uh, you don't have big hands

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and feet, then Olympic swimming is probably not ideal for you.

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But genetically, if you're kind of 6'4" and you've got big hands and

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feet and you've got a big engine, then they're your basics, right?

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That's the aptitude piece.

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That's the proficiency piece, the kind of genetics that got handed to you.

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But what he discovers in the research is that, yeah, that's the baseline.

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But what he actually discovers then is these tiny, unique habits.

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And he discovered that it wasn't just… He sort of, he, he

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concluded that excellence wasn't quantitative, it was qualitative.

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So it wasn't simply a case of these people just worked harder and did

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more and went on and just that, you know, more quantity, right?

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What he discovered was that their processes were of a very high quality,

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so that when they discovered particular training habits and p- training

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hacks, they just kept doing them.

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So I play a lot of golf, and my handicap's pretty low, and I had a lesson again

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recently, and there was just this simple process that the, that my coach was

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taking me through, which, you know, it, it just hadn't occurred to me before,

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and he kinda helped me understand it, and it was a qualitative improvement.

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And then I just began to repeat that qualitative improvement for

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the days and weeks afterwards, and you get a significant benefit.

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And people look at you and go, "Wow, you're really hitting it well." And

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I go, "Well, yeah, but it's, it's a series of stacked skills." It's not

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that I'm talented, it's that I learned basic movement patterns and then a whole

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bunch of other practice, and then these qualitative skills stacked over time.

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So let me give you a direct quote here from Daniel Chambliss, who says,

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"Superlative performance, superlative performance, is really a confluence,

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coming together, of dozens of small skills or activities drilled into habit

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and fitted together in a synthesized whole." One more time, listen carefully.

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"Superlative performance" Would you like that?

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D- I mean, is anybody gonna say, "I don't want superlative performance in my life"?

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"Is really a confluence, coming together, of dozens of small skills or activities

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drilled into habit and fitted together in a synthesized whole." So what we assume is

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excellence is people learning a specific path of skills, stacking them together,

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and bringing them into one whole.

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I spoke at an event recently, and it was great.

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You know, as I, I got a lot of travel coming up, a lot more speaking,

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but it was great to be back on stage, and, and it was interesting.

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People really appreciated it, and they're like, "You know, great speech." And I'm

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like, "Thank you." But it occurred to me, talking to Karen on the way back

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to the airport, at one point I spent a decade, a decade speaking to about 40,000

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people a year for 10 years straight.

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Stage after stage, from big events to remote outback Australian country towns,

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I, I just kept doing it for a decade.

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So now if you see me on stage, you're like, "Wow, he is so talented." Friends,

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y- uh, uh, uh, it's aptitude and then 10 years on the road, and it's now 20, almost

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25 years really that I've been doing this.

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So all of this is to encourage you, because I want to disabuse

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you of the talent myth.

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I want you to stop thinking that your life is ever meant

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to just be normal or mediocre.

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I mean, do you believe in a God or a universe that would basically create

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this tiny sprinkling of talented people, and the rest of us completely

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just missed out and got overlooked?

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I don't think that's how reality works at all.

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So I wanna encourage you that whatever gift you've been given, and I'm really

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big on this lately with people, all of us have a unique talent and gift.

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All of us have a unique talent and gift.

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And the mundanity of excellence is simply the decision to learn good qualitative

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improvement in your particular area of excellence, and then form that into habits

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that you practice regularly and bring those together in a synthesized whole.

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But if you only take two things from this message today, number one, I

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want you to surrender the talent myth.

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I, I, I know your brain's going, "No, I don't, don't agree. I see these amazing

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people on screen. They do this and they do that." You don't know the backstory.

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You don't.

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You don't know the, the, the-- they surely, they might have had some genetic

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or, uh, um, you know, genetic blessings or they were born a particular place,

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or then all they had was an aptitude and then some practice and then developing

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the skills and bringing them together in a synthesized whole over time.

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And if they can do it, you can do it.

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And the reason I wanna sell it to you is because when you do it, when

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you are living in your gift, you bless people, you bless the world.

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Can you imagine a planet where everybody kinda was operating in their real genius

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zone, their particular area of blessing?

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Can you imagine what the world would be like?

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I mean, how many of us surrender our lives to doing entire careers and lifespans

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with things that we genuinely dislike?

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And that is so driven, drilled deep into me that I wanna

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rescue anybody I can from it.

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So I guess the summary today is stop looking for the secret to growing your

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business, to improving your relationships, to getting fit, to losing weight.

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There actually isn't one.

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There isn't a super secret, and that is actually the best news

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that you're gonna get today.

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The best news you're probably gonna hear today is that there is no super secret to

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the thing that's most important to you.

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It's just identifying the habits and patterns, putting them into practice, and

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doing it over an extended period of time.

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That's all you have to do.

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God bless you, my friend.

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This has been The Daily Podcast.

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I'm your host, Jonathan Doyle.

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It's been an absolute joy to talk with you today, and you and I

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