You will change your beliefs only when you have a big enough purpose.

People assume changing a deep belief takes decades of therapy, journaling and self-exploration. What I’ve seen in years of coaching is that beliefs move fastest under leverage — when you link the negative belief to the non-attainment of something you deeply want. The mechanism is congruence: humans cannot comfortably hold “I want to build this” and “I’m not the kind of person who can” at the same time. Something has to give — either the goal dies, or the belief does. In this episode I tell the most embarrassing story I own: the twenty-year fear of flying that survived hundreds of flights, and the strange way it finally ended — the day my brain quietly accepted that nothing was in my control at 40,000 feet and simply packed up its tools and went home. Plus the coaching conversation pattern I use to help people create that leverage deliberately instead of taking twenty years the slow way.

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You will change your beliefs only when you have a big enough

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purpose Well, hey there, my friend.

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Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Welcome to the Daily Podcast.

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I'm glad you're here.

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Uh, please subscribe if you're a new listener.

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If you like what you hear today, hit that subscribe button.

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If you're a regular listener and you haven't subscribed, it would be

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a great joy if you could do that.

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We're gonna talk about something that I passionately believe in.

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I've seen this happen.

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I've observed this so many times in coaching people and speaking.

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Changing beliefs is just about one of the hardest things

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that people think you can do.

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I want you to think about maybe sometime in your life you've had

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a belief about yourself, about the world, that has proved intractable.

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That's such a great word, meaning that it's so hard to change.

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And the more that I coach people, the more that I work in this space and read

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and think, it is just fascinating to observe how beliefs become so powerful

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in our lives for good or for ill.

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You can observe some people have beliefs about themselves.

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"I can do anything.

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I'm a good person.

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I can make things different.

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I'm here to change the world." And you can have so many people with

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beliefs that they are worthless, they are ugly, that they're stupid.

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Now, we could do a whole series of podcasts about where these come from.

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We are subtle creatures.

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We have difficult experiences li- in life.

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You look at the psychology, psychological movement of the 19th and tw- early 20th

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century, you see this first exploration of childhood psychology and what

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happens to us, and the purpose of this episode is not to explore that deeply.

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Uh, suffice to say that we've all been through difficult things.

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Even with the most perfect parents and the most wonderful environment,

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all of us are gonna have some wounds, some better, some worse.

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Some of us have lived through terrible things.

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But these beliefs come to us from complex experiences.

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But what I'm interested in today is not so much delineating where they come

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from, but how powerful they can be, and is there any way that they can shift?

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So I wanna give you a very simple idea.

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What I am trying to deeply inculcate, deeply groove into my own life and into

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the people that I get to serve, is the belief that you only want beliefs that

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will serve you, that will move you forward to a place that you would like to get to.

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Sounds very simple, doesn't it?

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Sounds very commonsensical.

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But can you observe with me that the vast majority of people do not do that?

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It seems more common that our negative beliefs about ourselves can write

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the script of our lives, because people don't know how to ask that

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question, "Is this belief serving me?

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Is it moving me towards where I want to go?" Now, I really wanna draw your

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attention to something super important.

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People believe that this thing has to be incredibly complex, that it needs to take

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years and years of therapy or reading or journaling or self-exploration, and

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my increasing belief, I'm using that word so often, belief is that these

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things can change much, much faster.

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And the way that I've observed them change is when people deeply encounter

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the relationship between beliefs and purpose, by which I mean if you have a

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strong, strong sense of what it is that you are here to do and what it is that

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you are here to accomplish, then you will begin to notice that beliefs that do not

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serve that become quite painful to you.

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And all of a sudden you get a kind of leverage over yourself

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So stay with me on this.

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If you believe that you're here to do something important in the world, and

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there's something that you want to attain, whether it's professionally,

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pastorally, financially, relationally, whatever it is that really matters to you.

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If you can get to a point where you ask yourself, "These things I believe about

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myself, are they moving me towards that deeply passionate goal for my own life,

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or do they take me away from it?" And if you get, if you get to that point

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and you notice a kind of friction, you suddenly go, "Well, I want this thing.

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There's this thing in my life that I want, but I have to be honest enough to

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notice that I believe things about myself that are not advancing me towards that,"

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and it sets up this interior tension.

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And gosh, one thing I've learned in all these years of coaching is

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that humans really seek congruence.

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We, we constantly-- To find peace, to find optimized energy and flow in life,

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we need to be as congruent as possible.

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It means that we're acting in ways that are congruent with what we

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truly believe is important to us.

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So I feel a fair bit of peace in my life these days because the

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work that I get to do and the life that I live are all pointing in

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pretty much the same direction.

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If you follow me on Instagram, you see that I live what I talk.

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Like, you can see me at 4:00 AM, 5:00 AM, out there in minus

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five, training, doing things.

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So there's not this constant tension in my life going, "Gosh, I hope no one finds

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out that I don't actually live any of this stuff." So my belief about myself,

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who I am, what I do, how I operate, what my processes are, are congruent

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with what I'm trying to do in the world, and there's a certain peace there.

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But if you're trying to get to a place in life where you're happy,

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successful, you're using your gifts and talents, but you hold a deep belief

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that you're a terrible person, you, you automatically are playing a game

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that has immense tension in it, right?

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There's gonna be this tension between what you're trying to do

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and what you think about yourself.

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And so how do you resolve that tension?

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Well, I think it's this simple knowledge that if you don't find a

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way to get aligned, that tension's gonna exist indefinitely, and

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you'll never get where you wanna be.

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And can I please draw your attention to this idea that it

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doesn't have to take 40 years?

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Let me give you a great example.

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So over the last 20, 30, 40 year- 20, 30 years of traveling,

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speaking, and coaching, I've flown so much I've lost track, right?

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So all over the world from, you know, the Middle East to Europe to Iceland

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to all over the US to, uh, Asia.

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And believe it or not, there was a time in my life where I, I was

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flying probably four days a week.

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And the problem with that was that I had a incredible fear of flying.

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Total crazy fear of flying, right?

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Some of you can relate, and if you can relate to that,

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it can be really, really bad.

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Like extremely bad.

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So this fear of flying continued for many, many years, and I would read

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things, and I would study things, and I would practice this and do

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this, and, and it went on forever.

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And then eventually, after about, um, oh, this is hard to talk about because

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it's so embarrassing , but like after about 20 years, it kinda stopped.

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I did so many US trips, you know, and that's basically flying Sydney-Dallas

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or Sydney-LA, which is like 14 to 16 hours, that basically you can't stay

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that terrified for that long, that often.

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Now, you can do it for a while, but it's really interesting, the

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mechanism, 'cause I kinda studied it.

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I did some research.

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I'm like, "Why did it stop?" Like, I don't even remember suddenly

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having some huge breakthrough.

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And here's the interesting thing.

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The way it actually stopped was that the, the process that I was

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running was a deeply held belief that something terrible could happen And

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I had to somehow be in control of it.

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That's the anxiety piece, right?

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Like something could happen, and when it happens, there was this terrible fear

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of not being able to do anything, the fear of being out of control, right?

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That was the mechanism.

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Complex reasons from my childhood, blah, blah, blah, could, could make

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a whole bunch of psychotherapists really rich trying to figure that

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out, but that was my problem.

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So I'm in this hypervigilance, right?

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This constant state of what can I do?

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What can I do if, if it suddenly plummets?

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What do I do?

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And suddenly, well, my brain figured this one simple thing out.

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The answer to my question was this: nothing.

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Absolutely nothing.

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So it took me 20 years to move from this belief that something's going to happen

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and I must be able to do something, to a new belief, which was something's gonna

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happen and there's nothing we can do.

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And when I read the research, it's like my brain just literally one day just

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went, "Well, nothing we can do about this. Let's stop paying attention to it," and

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just, just like literally packed up its tools and took its toys and went home.

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It's literally that straightforward.

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So you might be listening to me going, "Yeah, well it took

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you 20 years to get there."

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I'm going, "Sure." So I'm here to save you time, at least trying

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to help you understand that beliefs can change really quickly.

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Now, I did it the slow way.

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I did this thing where I'm like, "Yes, I would like 20 years of suffering so

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that I can do a podcast about belief change." So I did the work for you,

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but it's amazing and I, I'm trying to stress the point that we can move much

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faster than we think on key beliefs.

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And the mechanism that I'm trying to share with you today is that my

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current experience is that the most powerful way to do it is by linking a

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negative belief to the non-attainment of something that you truly value.

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Let me say that again.

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That's good, I'm gonna put that on Instagram.

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That it's, the way to change a belief quickly is to link it to

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the non-attainment of something that's really important to you.

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So I was coaching, um, a female executive a while ago, and she was really clear

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about what it was that she wanted, and there was something really important that

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she wanted to achieve professionally.

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And then we were talking about, we were working deeply on the belief systems that

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were holding her back, and we were able to get to a place where she could see that

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if she did not change the belief about herself, she could not attain the goal.

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And that creates this pain point, this internal friction, and our

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brain is often trying to resolve these, you know, internal problems.

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So her options are what?

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Number one, drop the goal.

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Accept that you're never going to get the thing you want, and that's painful,

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and our brains want to avoid that.

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So our brain's like, "Well, I do, I want that goal.

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That goal's really important to me.

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I don't want to quit on it." So what's your other option?

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Well, if I still want the goal, and it's super important to me,

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but this belief is, is guaranteeing I won't get it, what do I do?

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Well, I have to change the belief.

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And it's hard, but it is not impossible.

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Again, it is hard, but it is not impossible So can I help you with this?

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I want you to think about something you might think about yourself.

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Can I be-- I'll give you a really honest example.

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So with my background, so without going into graphic detail, I had a,

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uh, I had a very challenging childhood, and I developed beliefs, probably

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like some of you listening do, that deep down I'm not a good person and

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I don't deserve this and I'm a bad person, and just stuff that develops

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when you've had some pretty bad knocks early in life and very understandable,

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people who've been through abuse or trauma and all these sorts of things.

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So some of it maybe you, maybe you can relate personally, but at least

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you can relate in the abstract.

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So I carry these beliefs, and here I am out in the world having a successful

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career, but these beliefs are still there.

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And what really changed for me was the realization that what I genuinely

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wanted to do was to serve and help as many people as possible around the

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world and to build a life that would be beautiful and not perfect, but so

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full of travel and joy and, and impact and success, and that I wanted to…

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Uh, and also that I wanted to make full use of my abilities, that I wanted to

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discover how good I could get at certain things and how, how, how I could refine

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my talents and gifts for their own sake, for the purpose of giving glory to God

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and pursuing excellence for its own sake.

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So there's all these things that I want, right?

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But I've got this belief, and it was as simple as losing the belief

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that I had about fear of flying.

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It was literally like, if I keep believing this, I can't have what I

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want because they're not congruent.

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A person that hates themselves or thinks they're a bad person cannot

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achieve long-term serious success.

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Now, you'll see it sometimes, but then it implodes.

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Like, the greatest sort of test case for this is Hollywood, right?

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You see these people who are beautiful and successful and talented, and

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they have fame and fortune and, and cash, and just everything looks

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great, and then they're in rehab.

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Why?

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Because the underlying belief system and architecture is completely fractured.

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So you layer on top of it all this success, but the belief is

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like, "We're not congruent here.

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We hate ourselves.

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We can't have this stuff.

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We need to go and take a whole load of drugs and pass out in an

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alleyway to stay congruent," right?

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So for me, it was like the purpose became more important than allowing

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negative beliefs to continue.

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And it's, it's like there's this sort of, uh, subroutine in my brain that

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if I ever sort of drift that way, it, it cuts off almost instantly.

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It's like software.

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It just goes, "Nope. If you believe that, you cannot serve people. If you think

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this about yourself, if you collapse into this sort of feeling state, you

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cannot do this other thing that you've said to yourself is so important."

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So I don't know.

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I hope I'm not laboring this too much, but this is the essential dynamic I

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want you to try and think about, that the way you change negative beliefs

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about yourself… You know, some people will tell you, "Well, you've gotta

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get more evidence. You've gotta go out and have better experiences," and

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then they'll stack up the evidence, and maybe there's something to that.

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But I think the fastest way is to get leverage on yourself, and the way you get

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leverage on yourself is to be super clear about why you're here and what you really

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want, and then simply ask yourself, "Is this belief serving me?" See, I wanna

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serve as many people as possible, so I have to have a belief that I'm not a

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perfect person, but I'm a good person.

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I wanna help.

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Like, I genuinely do.

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I just, just, I just default to it all the time.

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I wanna help as many people as possible.

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No, I'm not perfect.

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No, I'm not, I'm not, uh, an enlightened soul floating on a cloud.

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I'm not that.

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But I don't allow these negative beliefs to exist anymore because they are

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against the primary purpose and goal.

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Okay, so I hope that's useful.

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Look deep into your own life.

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Be honest with yourself.

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Do you hold negative beliefs about yourself still?

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What is it that you want in life?

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'Cause if those things, the beliefs about yourself and your desires for

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your future, are not congruent, you are setting yourself up for friction,

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and this is going to be problematic.

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All right.

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Please subscribe to the podcast.

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You can follow me on Instagram, JDoyleSpeaks, YouTube, Jonathan

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Doyle Speaks, and you can find me on the website jonathandoyle.co.

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If you wanna book me for speaking, our executive coaching stuff is there.

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But God bless you, my friend.

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It's-- I hope it's useful.

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So let's finish this with me stitching together a quote on the fly.

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If you want to attain what you truly say you desire, then your beliefs about

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yourself must be congruent with that deep sense of mission and purpose.

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