You will change your beliefs only when you have a big enough purpose.
People assume changing a deep belief takes decades of therapy, journaling and self-exploration. What I’ve seen in years of coaching is that beliefs move fastest under leverage — when you link the negative belief to the non-attainment of something you deeply want. The mechanism is congruence: humans cannot comfortably hold “I want to build this” and “I’m not the kind of person who can” at the same time. Something has to give — either the goal dies, or the belief does. In this episode I tell the most embarrassing story I own: the twenty-year fear of flying that survived hundreds of flights, and the strange way it finally ended — the day my brain quietly accepted that nothing was in my control at 40,000 feet and simply packed up its tools and went home. Plus the coaching conversation pattern I use to help people create that leverage deliberately instead of taking twenty years the slow way.
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You will change your beliefs only when you have a big enough
Speaker:purpose Well, hey there, my friend.
Speaker:Jonathan Doyle with you.
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Speaker:We're gonna talk about something that I passionately believe in.
Speaker:I've seen this happen.
Speaker:I've observed this so many times in coaching people and speaking.
Speaker:Changing beliefs is just about one of the hardest things
Speaker:that people think you can do.
Speaker:I want you to think about maybe sometime in your life you've had
Speaker:a belief about yourself, about the world, that has proved intractable.
Speaker:That's such a great word, meaning that it's so hard to change.
Speaker:And the more that I coach people, the more that I work in this space and read
Speaker:and think, it is just fascinating to observe how beliefs become so powerful
Speaker:in our lives for good or for ill.
Speaker:You can observe some people have beliefs about themselves.
Speaker:"I can do anything.
Speaker:I'm a good person.
Speaker:I can make things different.
Speaker:I'm here to change the world." And you can have so many people with
Speaker:beliefs that they are worthless, they are ugly, that they're stupid.
Speaker:Now, we could do a whole series of podcasts about where these come from.
Speaker:We are subtle creatures.
Speaker:We have difficult experiences li- in life.
Speaker:You look at the psychology, psychological movement of the 19th and tw- early 20th
Speaker:century, you see this first exploration of childhood psychology and what
Speaker:happens to us, and the purpose of this episode is not to explore that deeply.
Speaker:Uh, suffice to say that we've all been through difficult things.
Speaker:Even with the most perfect parents and the most wonderful environment,
Speaker:all of us are gonna have some wounds, some better, some worse.
Speaker:Some of us have lived through terrible things.
Speaker:But these beliefs come to us from complex experiences.
Speaker:But what I'm interested in today is not so much delineating where they come
Speaker:from, but how powerful they can be, and is there any way that they can shift?
Speaker:So I wanna give you a very simple idea.
Speaker:What I am trying to deeply inculcate, deeply groove into my own life and into
Speaker:the people that I get to serve, is the belief that you only want beliefs that
Speaker:will serve you, that will move you forward to a place that you would like to get to.
Speaker:Sounds very simple, doesn't it?
Speaker:Sounds very commonsensical.
Speaker:But can you observe with me that the vast majority of people do not do that?
Speaker:It seems more common that our negative beliefs about ourselves can write
Speaker:the script of our lives, because people don't know how to ask that
Speaker:question, "Is this belief serving me?
Speaker:Is it moving me towards where I want to go?" Now, I really wanna draw your
Speaker:attention to something super important.
Speaker:People believe that this thing has to be incredibly complex, that it needs to take
Speaker:years and years of therapy or reading or journaling or self-exploration, and
Speaker:my increasing belief, I'm using that word so often, belief is that these
Speaker:things can change much, much faster.
Speaker:And the way that I've observed them change is when people deeply encounter
Speaker:the relationship between beliefs and purpose, by which I mean if you have a
Speaker:strong, strong sense of what it is that you are here to do and what it is that
Speaker:you are here to accomplish, then you will begin to notice that beliefs that do not
Speaker:serve that become quite painful to you.
Speaker:And all of a sudden you get a kind of leverage over yourself
Speaker:So stay with me on this.
Speaker:If you believe that you're here to do something important in the world, and
Speaker:there's something that you want to attain, whether it's professionally,
Speaker:pastorally, financially, relationally, whatever it is that really matters to you.
Speaker:If you can get to a point where you ask yourself, "These things I believe about
Speaker:myself, are they moving me towards that deeply passionate goal for my own life,
Speaker:or do they take me away from it?" And if you get, if you get to that point
Speaker:and you notice a kind of friction, you suddenly go, "Well, I want this thing.
Speaker:There's this thing in my life that I want, but I have to be honest enough to
Speaker:notice that I believe things about myself that are not advancing me towards that,"
Speaker:and it sets up this interior tension.
Speaker:And gosh, one thing I've learned in all these years of coaching is
Speaker:that humans really seek congruence.
Speaker:We, we constantly-- To find peace, to find optimized energy and flow in life,
Speaker:we need to be as congruent as possible.
Speaker:It means that we're acting in ways that are congruent with what we
Speaker:truly believe is important to us.
Speaker:So I feel a fair bit of peace in my life these days because the
Speaker:work that I get to do and the life that I live are all pointing in
Speaker:pretty much the same direction.
Speaker:If you follow me on Instagram, you see that I live what I talk.
Speaker:Like, you can see me at 4:00 AM, 5:00 AM, out there in minus
Speaker:five, training, doing things.
Speaker:So there's not this constant tension in my life going, "Gosh, I hope no one finds
Speaker:out that I don't actually live any of this stuff." So my belief about myself,
Speaker:who I am, what I do, how I operate, what my processes are, are congruent
Speaker:with what I'm trying to do in the world, and there's a certain peace there.
Speaker:But if you're trying to get to a place in life where you're happy,
Speaker:successful, you're using your gifts and talents, but you hold a deep belief
Speaker:that you're a terrible person, you, you automatically are playing a game
Speaker:that has immense tension in it, right?
Speaker:There's gonna be this tension between what you're trying to do
Speaker:and what you think about yourself.
Speaker:And so how do you resolve that tension?
Speaker:Well, I think it's this simple knowledge that if you don't find a
Speaker:way to get aligned, that tension's gonna exist indefinitely, and
Speaker:you'll never get where you wanna be.
Speaker:And can I please draw your attention to this idea that it
Speaker:doesn't have to take 40 years?
Speaker:Let me give you a great example.
Speaker:So over the last 20, 30, 40 year- 20, 30 years of traveling,
Speaker:speaking, and coaching, I've flown so much I've lost track, right?
Speaker:So all over the world from, you know, the Middle East to Europe to Iceland
Speaker:to all over the US to, uh, Asia.
Speaker:And believe it or not, there was a time in my life where I, I was
Speaker:flying probably four days a week.
Speaker:And the problem with that was that I had a incredible fear of flying.
Speaker:Total crazy fear of flying, right?
Speaker:Some of you can relate, and if you can relate to that,
Speaker:it can be really, really bad.
Speaker:Like extremely bad.
Speaker:So this fear of flying continued for many, many years, and I would read
Speaker:things, and I would study things, and I would practice this and do
Speaker:this, and, and it went on forever.
Speaker:And then eventually, after about, um, oh, this is hard to talk about because
Speaker:it's so embarrassing , but like after about 20 years, it kinda stopped.
Speaker:I did so many US trips, you know, and that's basically flying Sydney-Dallas
Speaker:or Sydney-LA, which is like 14 to 16 hours, that basically you can't stay
Speaker:that terrified for that long, that often.
Speaker:Now, you can do it for a while, but it's really interesting, the
Speaker:mechanism, 'cause I kinda studied it.
Speaker:I did some research.
Speaker:I'm like, "Why did it stop?" Like, I don't even remember suddenly
Speaker:having some huge breakthrough.
Speaker:And here's the interesting thing.
Speaker:The way it actually stopped was that the, the process that I was
Speaker:running was a deeply held belief that something terrible could happen And
Speaker:I had to somehow be in control of it.
Speaker:That's the anxiety piece, right?
Speaker:Like something could happen, and when it happens, there was this terrible fear
Speaker:of not being able to do anything, the fear of being out of control, right?
Speaker:That was the mechanism.
Speaker:Complex reasons from my childhood, blah, blah, blah, could, could make
Speaker:a whole bunch of psychotherapists really rich trying to figure that
Speaker:out, but that was my problem.
Speaker:So I'm in this hypervigilance, right?
Speaker:This constant state of what can I do?
Speaker:What can I do if, if it suddenly plummets?
Speaker:What do I do?
Speaker:And suddenly, well, my brain figured this one simple thing out.
Speaker:The answer to my question was this: nothing.
Speaker:Absolutely nothing.
Speaker:So it took me 20 years to move from this belief that something's going to happen
Speaker:and I must be able to do something, to a new belief, which was something's gonna
Speaker:happen and there's nothing we can do.
Speaker:And when I read the research, it's like my brain just literally one day just
Speaker:went, "Well, nothing we can do about this. Let's stop paying attention to it," and
Speaker:just, just like literally packed up its tools and took its toys and went home.
Speaker:It's literally that straightforward.
Speaker:So you might be listening to me going, "Yeah, well it took
Speaker:you 20 years to get there."
Speaker:I'm going, "Sure." So I'm here to save you time, at least trying
Speaker:to help you understand that beliefs can change really quickly.
Speaker:Now, I did it the slow way.
Speaker:I did this thing where I'm like, "Yes, I would like 20 years of suffering so
Speaker:that I can do a podcast about belief change." So I did the work for you,
Speaker:but it's amazing and I, I'm trying to stress the point that we can move much
Speaker:faster than we think on key beliefs.
Speaker:And the mechanism that I'm trying to share with you today is that my
Speaker:current experience is that the most powerful way to do it is by linking a
Speaker:negative belief to the non-attainment of something that you truly value.
Speaker:Let me say that again.
Speaker:That's good, I'm gonna put that on Instagram.
Speaker:That it's, the way to change a belief quickly is to link it to
Speaker:the non-attainment of something that's really important to you.
Speaker:So I was coaching, um, a female executive a while ago, and she was really clear
Speaker:about what it was that she wanted, and there was something really important that
Speaker:she wanted to achieve professionally.
Speaker:And then we were talking about, we were working deeply on the belief systems that
Speaker:were holding her back, and we were able to get to a place where she could see that
Speaker:if she did not change the belief about herself, she could not attain the goal.
Speaker:And that creates this pain point, this internal friction, and our
Speaker:brain is often trying to resolve these, you know, internal problems.
Speaker:So her options are what?
Speaker:Number one, drop the goal.
Speaker:Accept that you're never going to get the thing you want, and that's painful,
Speaker:and our brains want to avoid that.
Speaker:So our brain's like, "Well, I do, I want that goal.
Speaker:That goal's really important to me.
Speaker:I don't want to quit on it." So what's your other option?
Speaker:Well, if I still want the goal, and it's super important to me,
Speaker:but this belief is, is guaranteeing I won't get it, what do I do?
Speaker:Well, I have to change the belief.
Speaker:And it's hard, but it is not impossible.
Speaker:Again, it is hard, but it is not impossible So can I help you with this?
Speaker:I want you to think about something you might think about yourself.
Speaker:Can I be-- I'll give you a really honest example.
Speaker:So with my background, so without going into graphic detail, I had a,
Speaker:uh, I had a very challenging childhood, and I developed beliefs, probably
Speaker:like some of you listening do, that deep down I'm not a good person and
Speaker:I don't deserve this and I'm a bad person, and just stuff that develops
Speaker:when you've had some pretty bad knocks early in life and very understandable,
Speaker:people who've been through abuse or trauma and all these sorts of things.
Speaker:So some of it maybe you, maybe you can relate personally, but at least
Speaker:you can relate in the abstract.
Speaker:So I carry these beliefs, and here I am out in the world having a successful
Speaker:career, but these beliefs are still there.
Speaker:And what really changed for me was the realization that what I genuinely
Speaker:wanted to do was to serve and help as many people as possible around the
Speaker:world and to build a life that would be beautiful and not perfect, but so
Speaker:full of travel and joy and, and impact and success, and that I wanted to…
Speaker:Uh, and also that I wanted to make full use of my abilities, that I wanted to
Speaker:discover how good I could get at certain things and how, how, how I could refine
Speaker:my talents and gifts for their own sake, for the purpose of giving glory to God
Speaker:and pursuing excellence for its own sake.
Speaker:So there's all these things that I want, right?
Speaker:But I've got this belief, and it was as simple as losing the belief
Speaker:that I had about fear of flying.
Speaker:It was literally like, if I keep believing this, I can't have what I
Speaker:want because they're not congruent.
Speaker:A person that hates themselves or thinks they're a bad person cannot
Speaker:achieve long-term serious success.
Speaker:Now, you'll see it sometimes, but then it implodes.
Speaker:Like, the greatest sort of test case for this is Hollywood, right?
Speaker:You see these people who are beautiful and successful and talented, and
Speaker:they have fame and fortune and, and cash, and just everything looks
Speaker:great, and then they're in rehab.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:Because the underlying belief system and architecture is completely fractured.
Speaker:So you layer on top of it all this success, but the belief is
Speaker:like, "We're not congruent here.
Speaker:We hate ourselves.
Speaker:We can't have this stuff.
Speaker:We need to go and take a whole load of drugs and pass out in an
Speaker:alleyway to stay congruent," right?
Speaker:So for me, it was like the purpose became more important than allowing
Speaker:negative beliefs to continue.
Speaker:And it's, it's like there's this sort of, uh, subroutine in my brain that
Speaker:if I ever sort of drift that way, it, it cuts off almost instantly.
Speaker:It's like software.
Speaker:It just goes, "Nope. If you believe that, you cannot serve people. If you think
Speaker:this about yourself, if you collapse into this sort of feeling state, you
Speaker:cannot do this other thing that you've said to yourself is so important."
Speaker:So I don't know.
Speaker:I hope I'm not laboring this too much, but this is the essential dynamic I
Speaker:want you to try and think about, that the way you change negative beliefs
Speaker:about yourself… You know, some people will tell you, "Well, you've gotta
Speaker:get more evidence. You've gotta go out and have better experiences," and
Speaker:then they'll stack up the evidence, and maybe there's something to that.
Speaker:But I think the fastest way is to get leverage on yourself, and the way you get
Speaker:leverage on yourself is to be super clear about why you're here and what you really
Speaker:want, and then simply ask yourself, "Is this belief serving me?" See, I wanna
Speaker:serve as many people as possible, so I have to have a belief that I'm not a
Speaker:perfect person, but I'm a good person.
Speaker:I wanna help.
Speaker:Like, I genuinely do.
Speaker:I just, just, I just default to it all the time.
Speaker:I wanna help as many people as possible.
Speaker:No, I'm not perfect.
Speaker:No, I'm not, I'm not, uh, an enlightened soul floating on a cloud.
Speaker:I'm not that.
Speaker:But I don't allow these negative beliefs to exist anymore because they are
Speaker:against the primary purpose and goal.
Speaker:Okay, so I hope that's useful.
Speaker:Look deep into your own life.
Speaker:Be honest with yourself.
Speaker:Do you hold negative beliefs about yourself still?
Speaker:What is it that you want in life?
Speaker:'Cause if those things, the beliefs about yourself and your desires for
Speaker:your future, are not congruent, you are setting yourself up for friction,
Speaker:and this is going to be problematic.
Speaker:All right.
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Speaker:You can follow me on Instagram, JDoyleSpeaks, YouTube, Jonathan
Speaker:Doyle Speaks, and you can find me on the website jonathandoyle.co.
Speaker:If you wanna book me for speaking, our executive coaching stuff is there.
Speaker:But God bless you, my friend.
Speaker:It's-- I hope it's useful.
Speaker:So let's finish this with me stitching together a quote on the fly.
Speaker:If you want to attain what you truly say you desire, then your beliefs about
Speaker:yourself must be congruent with that deep sense of mission and purpose.