Some fatigue no amount of sleep will fix — because it isn’t physical. Jonathan Doyle, a relentless advocate for rest, draws the line between genuine tiredness and the slow drain of avoidance: the call you won’t return, the decision you keep dodging. His principle: energy follows action, not the other way around — and avoidance, not effort, is what’s quietly exhausting you.
“Name the thing that you have been too tired to face and face it today.”
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Most of your tiredness isn't physical.
Speaker:It's the weight of the thing you keep avoiding.
Speaker:Okay, let's jump into this.
Speaker:Do you sometimes feel an unusual fatigue?
Speaker:Do you sometimes kind of feel, "Why am I so tired?" Now, I don't discount
Speaker:the significance of significant mental health challenges that can sometimes
Speaker:feel like a overbearing fatigue.
Speaker:That is not what I'm covering in this message.
Speaker:And the other thing I'd like to do with you very early in this
Speaker:message is talk about my relentless love for and focus upon rest.
Speaker:So we're gonna talk about tiredness today, and I'm gonna link it to
Speaker:this idea that the-- one of the reasons you might sometimes feel
Speaker:unusually tired is because you're avoiding some things you need to do.
Speaker:So this is not a message about just push, push, push, 'cause
Speaker:I am a huge advocate for rest.
Speaker:If you meet any of my family, and even some of my friends, they would be able
Speaker:to tell you that I have this, like, religious discipline around sleep.
Speaker:It has transformed my life quite recently that I have a very disciplined
Speaker:life, but sleep is the secret sauce.
Speaker:Now, I'm not gonna bore you with the details, but I am so disciplined
Speaker:about sleep, and it's very, very-- it's worked beautifully for me.
Speaker:Maybe we can talk about that in another message.
Speaker:But what I wanna talk about is what about this tiredness that
Speaker:you just can't seem to explain?
Speaker:And I've experienced this recently.
Speaker:I'm in a very big training phase at the moment, so I'm doing, uh, a lot
Speaker:of significant training, and it's very calibrated and it's, uh, I've got a whole
Speaker:bunch of metrics that I run and, and sort of feedback systems so I know exactly
Speaker:where I'm traveling in this program.
Speaker:And I noticed even a few weeks ago, I was feeling like my metrics were
Speaker:like, I should be feeling great.
Speaker:Why am I waking up feeling like this?
Speaker:And I wasn't depressed, but I had a lot of things, a lot of challenges going on and,
Speaker:you know, business things and I suddenly realized that, with the help of someone
Speaker:else, that this kind of was a fatigue that had nothing to do with a physical cause.
Speaker:This was a fatigue that was being driven by other challenges and things that were
Speaker:happening around me that I needed to really-- I was addressing them, but I
Speaker:needed to take it up a couple of notches.
Speaker:So what I wanna suggest is sometimes people use this exhaustion as, "I
Speaker:can't do anything. I'm so tired." And it's this fatigue that, as I've
Speaker:said, sleep won't actually fix.
Speaker:But what I wanna suggest that what might be underneath it is maybe
Speaker:the thing that you're not doing, the conversation you're not having,
Speaker:the call that you won't return.
Speaker:And here's the key.
Speaker:Ready?
Speaker:Avoidance drains you.
Speaker:Avoidance drains you I want you to try and just conceptualize that for a moment.
Speaker:You know, sometimes we might think that if we avoid difficult things, you know,
Speaker:we're conserving our energy, or we're being practical or reasonable, or we're
Speaker:just not in a place to deal with this.
Speaker:But I wanna offer you a different perception.
Speaker:I want to offer you the belief that refusing to be the master of your
Speaker:life, refusing to make the difficult choices and decisions, may actually
Speaker:be sucking the life out of you.
Speaker:And that you're not tired because you're not sleeping enough.
Speaker:And look, there's a whole bunch of things we need to be doing.
Speaker:Need to get off screens earlier and, and, you know, get a good sleep routine
Speaker:and all those sorts of things, and be active enough so that at the end
Speaker:of the day, we're ready for rest.
Speaker:So I say to Karen that if anybody needs me, I'm your guy between
Speaker:four AM and about eight PM.
Speaker:You-- Uh, anything you need, four AM to eight PM, I'm your person.
Speaker:I'm your guy.
Speaker:But after that, I'm done, 'cause I'm really dialed in on that.
Speaker:But when this other fatigue is there in your life and you are doing some
Speaker:of the other stuff right, can I offer you the idea that there may
Speaker:be something else underneath it?
Speaker:So one of the key principles that's helped me so much over the years,
Speaker:and very much at the moment, is this.
Speaker:You ready?
Speaker:Energy follows action.
Speaker:It doesn't precede it.
Speaker:Energy follows action.
Speaker:It doesn't precede it What about this idea?
Speaker:What about the idea that the thing that you are avoiding is the very thing
Speaker:that will hand you your life back?
Speaker:The thing that you're avoiding is the very thing that will hand you your life back.
Speaker:And I don't want this to sound abstract or kinda some, you know, woo woo idea.
Speaker:I have experienced this so powerfully.
Speaker:Like, there are decisions that I've had to make and challenges and
Speaker:choices that are really complex, and I'm sure you have at times too.
Speaker:And what do we do?
Speaker:We kinda go round and round, just like that water going down a drain, where
Speaker:we go round and round and round, and we, we don't wanna make the decision.
Speaker:We don't wanna ask the person out, propose marriage, start the company,
Speaker:sell the house, buy the house, start the career, register for the course.
Speaker:We just go round and round, and we think we're being rational.
Speaker:And friends, there is a place for deliberation.
Speaker:There is a place for making wise decisions, and I'm an advocate for it.
Speaker:But I also need all of us to understand that we need to be very careful that
Speaker:we're not using avoidance and making it look like some kinda process that we're
Speaker:going through, because underneath it all, we're gonna be exhausting ourselves.
Speaker:Energy follows action.
Speaker:Once you commit to a course and you close off the other options,
Speaker:it's a quite a powerful moment.
Speaker:I spent so many years in my life really paralyzed with decision-making.
Speaker:You know, I used to have this belief, I was a very sort of, uh, what's the word?
Speaker:People used to say earnest.
Speaker:I always wanted to do the right thing.
Speaker:I wanted to, you know, and, and look back-- I can look back now
Speaker:and say it was anxiety driven, something I don't experience anymore.
Speaker:But I could see how, because of my backstory, I was driven by
Speaker:anxiety and control, that I, I needed to know that whatever I
Speaker:was gonna do was the right choice.
Speaker:I really had to know it.
Speaker:And then because I had a Christian perspective, I didn't wanna upset
Speaker:God, and I was like, "I've gotta know what God's exact desire is and
Speaker:what's God's will, and if I gotta…
Speaker:And I-- It's binary and I can't get outside it." So I spent all these
Speaker:years kinda just not choosing, and it took all these years.
Speaker:I said this two episodes ago.
Speaker:I'm just here to save you time.
Speaker:I'm not here 'cause I'm wise.
Speaker:I'm just here 'cause I made a whole bunch of dumb choices, and I wanna
Speaker:spare you from making the same ones.
Speaker:I just got to a point where I was like, what I thought was, like devout
Speaker:spirituality or what I thought was, like s- being a serious person in many
Speaker:ways was avoidance of responsibility.
Speaker:Avoidance of responsibility.
Speaker:What responsibility?
Speaker:The crucial responsibility that every single one of us actually has
Speaker:for the outcomes in our own life.
Speaker:No, we cannot control every outcome, but we do have a profound responsibility
Speaker:to be the actors and directors in our own lives And so this fatigue that you
Speaker:may be feeling, I just wonder how much of it might disappear if you got back
Speaker:in the pilot seat of your own life and you started making some choices again
Speaker:and started making some decisions.
Speaker:'Cause I can tell you friends, it is so much like a snowball
Speaker:going down a mountain.
Speaker:What do I mean?
Speaker:That once you start this process, it starts to get momentum, and then the
Speaker:next thing and the next thing and the next thing, and you keep moving and doing
Speaker:and choosing and trying and pushing.
Speaker:And yeah, there's hard work to be done, but I am desperate for you to understand
Speaker:it is the best, it is the best life.
Speaker:Like I don't know where I'm gonna end up, but I know that I won't die of boredom
Speaker:and I'm no longer gonna die of avoidance.
Speaker:So let me just offer you that principle.
Speaker:Yeah, sure, check out the physiological, you know, possibilities around fatigue.
Speaker:Maybe you're dealing with grief and maybe you've had trauma and maybe
Speaker:there's setbacks, but eventually, eventually avoidance will drain you.
Speaker:Energy follows action.
Speaker:Energy follows action.
Speaker:All right.
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Speaker:You ready to finish?
Speaker:Here's what I want you to do.
Speaker:Name the thing that you have been too tired to face and face it today